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Len Woodruff
Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 100 Location: Frisco, TX
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:18 pm Post subject: Bill Stroppe 64 Mercury |
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What carb did they use for the single 4 BBl 427 for Nascar?
The dual 4 bbl used the square bowl 600 cfrm.
I am thinking they used the ones that had the nose on each end.
I don't think the cathedral ones had been invented yet. |
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Bill J
Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 393
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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You're right Len. The Holley with the center pivot first design, often called LeMan's float bowls. Fireball Modelworks has one, the Holley 3259 which was the same in outward appearance as the correct NASCAR Holley of the day. |
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Len Woodruff
Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 100 Location: Frisco, TX
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Bill J
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, that's the baby Len. That's Fireball, not Firebird BTW. |
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Len Woodruff
Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 100 Location: Frisco, TX
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Bill J wrote: | Yep, that's the baby Len. That's Fireball, not Firebird BTW. |
Thanks bill. Just a typo. BTW the 66 Monogram 427 Cobra SC has them too. |
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Bill J
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Len here is a pic of a Stroppe Merc engine
And Fireball's Holley is 100% accurate, the Monogram Cobra carb is a plastic blob in comparison.
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Len Woodruff
Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 100 Location: Frisco, TX
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Bill. I looked all over for the 64 engine with the air cleaner off and couldn't find it. Thanks for posting.
Do you know if they used the deeper oil pans for these cars? |
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Bill J
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty certain they did use the deeper pan. I think all the engines still came from H-M and were the same. In 64 they still had the cast iron factory 427 headers also. |
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Len Woodruff
Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 100 Location: Frisco, TX
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Bill J wrote: | Pretty certain they did use the deeper pan. I think all the engines still came from H-M and were the same. In 64 they still had the cast iron factory 427 headers also. |
Thanks I am using the engine/chassis from the 60 Ford Starliner. I have a resin cast deep pan from a funny car kit that fits perfect. |
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Len Woodruff
Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 100 Location: Frisco, TX
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Did they box the gas tanks in for 64?
Were they still under the car or put into the trunk?
I think the fuel started in 65? |
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Bill J
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:42 am Post subject: |
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The gas tank to fuel cell requirement went into effect in 1965 based on the Charlotte 600 crash fire. They also banned the running of exhaust pipes through the frame for 65. They also made it mandatory, I believe, that the fuel filler be on the quarter panel, no longer allowed on the rear of the car.
The 64 Stroppe Mercury running in 64 would have had a regular boxed and strapped fuel tank and the exhaust routed through the frame rails.
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Len Woodruff
Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 100 Location: Frisco, TX
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Bill J wrote: | The gas tank to fuel cell requirement went into effect in 1965 based on the Charlotte 600 crash fire. They also banned the running of exhaust pipes through the frame for 65. They also made it mandatory, I believe, that the fuel filler be on the quarter panel, no longer allowed on the rear of the car.
The 64 Stroppe Mercury running in 64 would have had a regular boxed and strapped fuel tank and the exhaust routed through the frame rails.
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Thanks for the confirmation Bill. |
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Len Woodruff
Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 100 Location: Frisco, TX
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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I having a hard time determining if the Stroppe 64 Mercury or any 64 Fords ran the Lincoln Finned Drums. I looked at 2 of the Dr Craft books that show both the finned & non-finned drums but it is not clear what year they are. |
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BVAUGHN
Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Posts: 505
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Want to build a Stroppe 64 Mercury. I use rattle-cans to paint with. Recommendations for paint to use?
Thanks
Bill |
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Len Woodruff
Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 100 Location: Frisco, TX
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:23 am Post subject: |
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BVAUGHN wrote: | Want to build a Stroppe 64 Mercury. I use rattle-cans to paint with. Recommendations for paint to use?
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Bill |
I think the Testors Lacquer lines has the colors you need. Poppy Red, Guardsman Blue and any white should do. |
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67 Fairlane
Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Posts: 125 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Guys;
Just a heads-up, Bill Hasselle Jr's (slidinsideways) excellent thread on building the '62-'64 H/M Rollcage has now been completely restored and actually expanded. Though the title doesn't say, it includes photos and discussion about the similarites and differences between the Holman-Moody and Bill Stroppe chassis. Lots of great photos.
Gee its good to be back!
Jerry |
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Bill J
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Jerry. good information on the Stroppe and H-M cars. |
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Len Woodruff
Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 100 Location: Frisco, TX
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:25 am Post subject: |
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67 Fairlane wrote: | Hey Guys;
Just a heads-up, Bill Hasselle Jr's (slidinsideways) excellent thread on building the '62-'64 H/M Rollcage has now been completely restored and actually expanded. Though the title doesn't say, it includes photos and discussion about the similarites and differences between the Holman-Moody and Bill Stroppe chassis. Lots of great photos.
Gee its good to be back!
Jerry |
Thanks Jerry. I will check it out. I am ready to build the chassis on the Stroppe Merc. |
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