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Rocketman



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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:11 pm    Post subject: Tamiya TS can paint tips? Reply with quote

I've done ok with Tamiya TS rattle cans, but inevitably end up with bit of "bubbling" here and there requiring extra polish work. And a couple time masking off and repaint of the area if I can cu I burned through to the primer.

Looking for suggestions as to what I need to do better?
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the bubbling could be, too much paint. There have been times where I've got that & knew I sprayed waaay to much. Nice thing is it sanded out with a fine sander & I was able to respray it with a lighter hand.

As I don't have that many problems with Tamiya, not much I can really recommend, other then just spray with a light hand & do in multiple coats.

What are you using for a primer? I use Dupicolor, Tamiya & Walmart blue can primers as my bases. Lately it's been Dupicolor.

One color that gives me fits is Racing Blue. Beautiful color but damn it is a PiTA to apply. Really transparent, but once you get the colors build up, it really is a nice color.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the thin quality of the Tamiya lacquer is conducive to spraying too heavy. It's hard to be patient with all the necessary coats.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys thumbsup Been using Duplicolor the last few years so looks like I have to blame it on my lack of patience Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last 2 cans of Tamiya that I've used (Light Blue and Brilliant Orange) have both bubbled on me. Very frustrating pissed I used my dehydrator to warm up the can and that seemed to help a little, but not much Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just came a cross this thread.

Seems that a lot of guys are having problems with applying rattle can paints. I did too, until I found a tip that pointed me to the Tamiya site and a article on painting with spray cans by Peter Johnson. Here's the link:

http://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/feature.php?article-id=35

Read the article, then read it again. It works !! I've achieved my best paint jobs following his methods. Hardly any orange peel, no bubbling, cracking, etc. The hardest part is just applying lite even coats and waiting 1 hour between coats. By the 3rd lite coat you will start to see a shinny, deep mirror finish.

The biggest problem is spraying on way to heavy color coats. That causes all the problems as it dries.

Of course now that I'm more then satisfied with my rattle can procedures and results, I've just ordered from MCW their DVD on how to airbrush with their lacquer paints with an airbrush, and the procedures from what I've read are 180 degrees opposite.

I'm going to go with both systems for different applications, but I'm hoping to eventually do all my bodies with MCW paints.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know Ive had issues w/ the Tamiya Rattle can paint, especially gloss black, and I know its my own ham-fisted-ness w/ the paint and putting it down too heavy. I had it bubble up real bad on me, every time I painted, and it got so frustrating.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Baker wrote:
I know Ive had issues w/ the Tamiya Rattle can paint, especially gloss black, and I know its my own ham-fisted-ness w/ the paint and putting it down too heavy. I had it bubble up real bad on me, every time I painted, and it got so frustrating.


It's so easy to apply more paint then needed per coat with either a can or airbrush. It's the nature of the paints more then the application method that causes our problems. MCW lacquer paints are just the opposite, recommending no mist coats, followed by a few heavy wet coats to achieve a superior gloss finish.( I'm looking forward to watching their DVD to learn more).

I've had consistently terrible results with Tamiya acrylics thinned with either Isoprobyl alcohol (both 70 & 91%), and even their Thinner, which is mostly alcohol. I think that the problem for me is that the alcohol evaporates so fast that the paint just can't go down smooth as the pigment ends up looking like sand. I've experimented with using lacquer thinner, ok, it was a mistake as I grabbed the wrong can. But the acrylic paint went down great. I'm going to buy a box of plastic spoons and see if I can achieve those results again. If I can, then I have another option, and a wider selection of paint colors to choose from.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: TS cans Reply with quote

I had the same problem a couple of times. My hobby room is in our basement, and tends to be cool. This is also where I store my paint. Before I use a can now, I run hot water frot the tap into a pitcher. I put the can into a ziplock bag and let it sit in the water 4-5 minutes before I spray. This has cleared up the issue for me. Hope it helps!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes I tried to use gloss red and gloss black from Testors spray cans and both parts had to go to the purple pound Crying or Very sad . But I didn't have any problem with the Tamiya's pearl white. Is there any secret to get good results with the Testors cans? idunno
Are there some colors that are more difficult to be used than others?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont know about testors laquers cause ive never used them but testors enamel cans spray very heavily,thats why i dont use them either.my only idea on it is to back away some what so that you get a thinner coat when spraying,may have to use multiple thin coats to get desired results.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iagree

Testor's is absolutely brutal Rolling Eyes I only use the paints if I have to. For example the car I'm currently doing. The decals are a very close match to one of their paints so I gotta use it. Their One Coat Lacquer line is better than their regular cans but all those colors come in metallic only.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks bill and BrAkEs2o11!

My experience with the Testors spray paints were disastrous! The last one was with the Red Gloss # 1203 with resulted poor and end up in my purple pound. Once cleaned, the parts went back to primer and then I used the TS-49, Tamiya Bright Red, if the result was not excellent, at least was not the Testors' disaster ones. It will be easy to fix without returning the entire process until the purple pound.

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