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Rocketman

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 7054 Location: Ottawa, IL
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject: Tamiya TS can paint tips? |
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I've done ok with Tamiya TS rattle cans, but inevitably end up with bit of "bubbling" here and there requiring extra polish work. And a couple time masking off and repaint of the area if I can cu I burned through to the primer.
Looking for suggestions as to what I need to do better? _________________ Humpty Dumpty was pushed! |
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DucksFan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 9979 Location: Oregon, but not on the Western side :(
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 12:58 am Post subject: |
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the bubbling could be, too much paint. There have been times where I've got that & knew I sprayed waaay to much. Nice thing is it sanded out with a fine sander & I was able to respray it with a lighter hand.
As I don't have that many problems with Tamiya, not much I can really recommend, other then just spray with a light hand & do in multiple coats.
What are you using for a primer? I use Dupicolor, Tamiya & Walmart blue can primers as my bases. Lately it's been Dupicolor.
One color that gives me fits is Racing Blue. Beautiful color but damn it is a PiTA to apply. Really transparent, but once you get the colors build up, it really is a nice color. _________________

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Firefly

Joined: 19 Jun 2008 Posts: 2340 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:00 am Post subject: |
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I think the thin quality of the Tamiya lacquer is conducive to spraying too heavy. It's hard to be patient with all the necessary coats. _________________ On the bench: Dean Dalton Laguna,
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Rocketman

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 7054 Location: Ottawa, IL
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:36 am Post subject: |
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Thanks guys Been using Duplicolor the last few years so looks like I have to blame it on my lack of patience  _________________ Humpty Dumpty was pushed! |
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BrAkEs4L|fe

Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 10652 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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The last 2 cans of Tamiya that I've used (Light Blue and Brilliant Orange) have both bubbled on me. Very frustrating I used my dehydrator to warm up the can and that seemed to help a little, but not much  _________________ My real name is Jeff
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Joel

Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Posts: 158 Location: Selden, New York
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Just came a cross this thread.
Seems that a lot of guys are having problems with applying rattle can paints. I did too, until I found a tip that pointed me to the Tamiya site and a article on painting with spray cans by Peter Johnson. Here's the link:
http://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/feature.php?article-id=35
Read the article, then read it again. It works !! I've achieved my best paint jobs following his methods. Hardly any orange peel, no bubbling, cracking, etc. The hardest part is just applying lite even coats and waiting 1 hour between coats. By the 3rd lite coat you will start to see a shinny, deep mirror finish.
The biggest problem is spraying on way to heavy color coats. That causes all the problems as it dries.
Of course now that I'm more then satisfied with my rattle can procedures and results, I've just ordered from MCW their DVD on how to airbrush with their lacquer paints with an airbrush, and the procedures from what I've read are 180 degrees opposite.
I'm going to go with both systems for different applications, but I'm hoping to eventually do all my bodies with MCW paints. _________________ Thanks for looking,
Joel |
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Adam Baker

Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 5203 Location: Mooresville, NC
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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I know Ive had issues w/ the Tamiya Rattle can paint, especially gloss black, and I know its my own ham-fisted-ness w/ the paint and putting it down too heavy. I had it bubble up real bad on me, every time I painted, and it got so frustrating. _________________ http://s257.photobucket.com/albums/hh218/RangerMach1/
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Joel

Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Posts: 158 Location: Selden, New York
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Adam Baker wrote: | | I know Ive had issues w/ the Tamiya Rattle can paint, especially gloss black, and I know its my own ham-fisted-ness w/ the paint and putting it down too heavy. I had it bubble up real bad on me, every time I painted, and it got so frustrating. |
It's so easy to apply more paint then needed per coat with either a can or airbrush. It's the nature of the paints more then the application method that causes our problems. MCW lacquer paints are just the opposite, recommending no mist coats, followed by a few heavy wet coats to achieve a superior gloss finish.( I'm looking forward to watching their DVD to learn more).
I've had consistently terrible results with Tamiya acrylics thinned with either Isoprobyl alcohol (both 70 & 91%), and even their Thinner, which is mostly alcohol. I think that the problem for me is that the alcohol evaporates so fast that the paint just can't go down smooth as the pigment ends up looking like sand. I've experimented with using lacquer thinner, ok, it was a mistake as I grabbed the wrong can. But the acrylic paint went down great. I'm going to buy a box of plastic spoons and see if I can achieve those results again. If I can, then I have another option, and a wider selection of paint colors to choose from. _________________ Thanks for looking,
Joel |
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John Taylor

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 14 Location: WV
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: TS cans |
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| I had the same problem a couple of times. My hobby room is in our basement, and tends to be cool. This is also where I store my paint. Before I use a can now, I run hot water frot the tap into a pitcher. I put the can into a ziplock bag and let it sit in the water 4-5 minutes before I spray. This has cleared up the issue for me. Hope it helps! |
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starr

Joined: 17 Oct 2010 Posts: 206 Location: Nashua, N.H.
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Sometimes I tried to use gloss red and gloss black from Testors spray cans and both parts had to go to the purple pound . But I didn't have any problem with the Tamiya's pearl white. Is there any secret to get good results with the Testors cans?
Are there some colors that are more difficult to be used than others?
Thanks,
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bill collector
Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 1120 Location: Bonne Terre Missouri
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:19 am Post subject: |
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i dont know about testors laquers cause ive never used them but testors enamel cans spray very heavily,thats why i dont use them either.my only idea on it is to back away some what so that you get a thinner coat when spraying,may have to use multiple thin coats to get desired results. _________________ on the bench: custom LNT 8000 Ford hauler,carrying a 56 Ford F100 2wheel drive puller truck with a supercharged Boss 429 engine. |
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BrAkEs4L|fe

Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 10652 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Testor's is absolutely brutal I only use the paints if I have to. For example the car I'm currently doing. The decals are a very close match to one of their paints so I gotta use it. Their One Coat Lacquer line is better than their regular cans but all those colors come in metallic only. _________________ My real name is Jeff
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starr

Joined: 17 Oct 2010 Posts: 206 Location: Nashua, N.H.
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks bill and BrAkEs2o11!
My experience with the Testors spray paints were disastrous! The last one was with the Red Gloss # 1203 with resulted poor and end up in my purple pound. Once cleaned, the parts went back to primer and then I used the TS-49, Tamiya Bright Red, if the result was not excellent, at least was not the Testors' disaster ones. It will be easy to fix without returning the entire process until the purple pound.
Starr |
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