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gks1964
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 Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 7:10 pm Post subject: 1971 Dodge Charger |
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| Does the '71 Charger use the same power bulge hood as the '73-'74? |
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drppr76
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| Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| The 71 Charger used a flat hood - like in the mpc Buddy Baker 71 Charger - I think the middle of 71 or 72 was when the bulge hood was used - I may not be 💯 right but I know for a while that in 71 the hood on the Dodge Charger was flat |
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odcics2
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| Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:21 am Post subject: |
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The bubble hoods started to appear in mid 1971, when the hemis started using the raised lid on the bathtub intakes.
This was to help offset the penalty of restrictor plates, sleeves, tapered spacers, etc.
The manifold lid is a good inch taller, increasing the bathtub intake plenum area substantially.
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Firefly
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| Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:38 am Post subject: |
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'71:
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odcics2
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| Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:48 am Post subject: |
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First pic is from the Daytona 500.
I'd consider that early in the 1971 season...
p.s. that Isaac car is a 1969 Nichels re-body. Note the main hoop compared to the newly built Baker car.  |
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odcics2
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| Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Just looked up a few races.
Baker won the Rebel 400 in a flat hood Charger
Isaac won the Firecracker in a bubble hooded Charger.
It had a 426 wedge. Carb spacers were used, where advantageous. |
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gks1964
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Tom M.
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| Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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A couple of photos showing power bulge hoods on the Baker car. All appear to be on the later red interior version:
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john843
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| Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| odcics2 wrote: | Just looked up a few races.
Baker won the Rebel 400 in a flat hood Charger
Isaac won the Firecracker in a bubble hooded Charger.
It had a 426 wedge. Carb spacers were used, where advantageous. |
Was at the '71 Firecracker and I remember like it was yesterday watching the final laps holding my breath that Isaac's hood didn't rip up the rest of the way.
Almost 18 years later in the same seat, I would repeat that feeling watching D.W. bring the Tide machine home on fumes.... (at least that's what we were told at the time:)
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drppr76
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| Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope the 71 Charger that Salvinos is releasing does have a flat hood - either way I'm in for a few |
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AdamtheWayne
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| drppr76 wrote: | | I hope the 71 Charger that Salvinos is releasing does have a flat hood - either way I'm in for a few |
It will not however one will be available.
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drppr76
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| AdamtheWayne wrote: | | drppr76 wrote: | | I hope the 71 Charger that Salvinos is releasing does have a flat hood - either way I'm in for a few |
It will not however one will be available. |
Thank You for the heads-up  |
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AdamtheWayne
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| drppr76 wrote: | | AdamtheWayne wrote: | | drppr76 wrote: | | I hope the 71 Charger that Salvinos is releasing does have a flat hood - either way I'm in for a few |
It will not however one will be available. |
Thank You for the heads-up |
No worries. I've got a prototype on hand, I'm just waiting for the Salvinos unit to get finalized so I know my dimensions are right.
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| When is the projected release of the 71 Charger? |
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AdamtheWayne
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| RCB wrote: | | When is the projected release of the 71 Charger? |
It was originally slated for late June. Then later this year. Right now they'd like to hit fourth quarter.
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gks1964
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Are they releasing a '74? |
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AdamtheWayne
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| gks1964 wrote: | | Are they releasing a '74? |
Yes. The '71/'72 body will be one release and the '73/'74 body the other.
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gks1964
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| AdamtheWayne wrote: | | gks1964 wrote: | | Are they releasing a '74? |
Yes. The '71/'72 body will be one release and the '73/'74 body the other. |
Hope they do a good job. I doing a '71 flat hood for the AMT kits. Maybe it will fit the Salvino, if not I'll build the AMT kit. |
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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What about a 71-72 Plymouth ?
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AdamtheWayne
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| BVAUGHN wrote: | What about a 71-72 Plymouth ?
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That's being done as well although, I don't know if any progress has been made yet.
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| AdamtheWayne wrote: | | gks1964 wrote: | | Are they releasing a '74? |
Yes. The '71/'72 body will be one release and the '73/'74 body the other. |
Any previews of the '71? I've seen early CAD and proto photos of the '73 but I must have missed anything on the '71.
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odcics2
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| john843 wrote: | | odcics2 wrote: | Just looked up a few races.
Baker won the Rebel 400 in a flat hood Charger
Isaac won the Firecracker in a bubble hooded Charger.
It had a 426 wedge. Carb spacers were used, where advantageous. |
Was at the '71 Firecracker and I remember like it was yesterday watching the final laps holding my breath that Isaac's hood didn't rip up the rest of the way.
Almost 18 years later in the same seat, I would repeat that feeling watching D.W. bring the Tide machine home on fumes.... (at least that's what we were told at the time:)
John |
I remember listening to that race on the radio. Even in Detroit, it was a hot day.
Is that the race that Petty caught a driveshaft in the bumper?? |
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AdamtheWayne
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Here's the skinny as of today, 7,2,2020.
First out will be the '73 style Charger. Contract negotiations are being closed now. They are shooting for the holidays as a release date AT THIS TIME. (We all know things can happen but, fingers crossed) Hopefully Thanksgiving but likely Christmas time.
The '71 style will be made from the existing CAD drawings and a separate sliding mold will be made for that at a later date. (undecided at this time.) Again, it may or may not come with a flat hood, but if it doesn't there will be one available. Please post any hood underside shots you may have, flat or otherwise.
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odcics2
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| Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| Just curious: Will these Chargers be copies of production cars or the Nascar spec'd race cars, which had modified bumpers (lower pulled forward) & 1/4 panel flares? |
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AdamtheWayne
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| odcics2 wrote: | | Just curious: Will these Chargers be copies of production cars or the Nascar spec'd race cars, which had modified bumpers (lower pulled forward) & 1/4 panel flares? |
Salvinos doesn't do production street so, NASCAR spec all the way.
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odcics2
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| Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| AdamtheWayne wrote: | | odcics2 wrote: | | Just curious: Will these Chargers be copies of production cars or the Nascar spec'd race cars, which had modified bumpers (lower pulled forward) & 1/4 panel flares? |
Salvinos doesn't do production street so, NASCAR spec all the way. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| odcics2 wrote: | | ... modified bumpers (lower pulled forward) ... |
This is a subtle hack...I wonder if the model designers observed it.
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AdamtheWayne
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:39 am Post subject: |
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If you're looking for a pure car of any one Charger, you'll be dissapointed. While the race elements are there they won't pertain to a specific car. If the nose were pulled forward Petty style, you'd have to modify it to get a different style. With that said Salvinos is producing a Charger that is a great base for any charger, modifications like bumper angles and such are left up to the builder.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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I was just pointing out the differences from a production Charger to a Petty Charger.
I agree, any specific drivers/team would have done different changes from a production car.
Impossible to please everyone, out of the mold, so to speak. |
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