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HurricaneDave3
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:44 am Post subject: kit/body question about lagunas |
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Hi guys, this might be a stupid question but here goes: Is the Chevelle and the Laguna the same or very similar body style? I have a Laguna build and have no knowledge on these cars. They look very similar to me as far as how the body looks. I have a Pepsi Chevelle kit, would that work for my Laguna build? Any tips or advice is greatly appreciated on this build. Again, this is out of my comfort and knowledge zone but I would like to build one to say that I have. Thank you in advance . Btw, I would like to build the 88 Waltrip Gatorade car. _________________ Would love to have time to finish but I have kids:
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mprmprmpr
Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Posts: 294 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:20 am Post subject: |
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The Pepsi Chevelle kit is a Laguna. 1976/77 Body style with the aero nose.
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HurricaneDave3
Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Posts: 304 Location: Allentown, PA
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Oh ok Mark, I thought they looked very similar. Again, this is out of my knowledge/experience zone. Anything special I need to do to the kit for the '79 version? Is the kit chassis ok to use? Not planning on going all out on this one, just mainly want the correct body style, this is a shelfer for my own enjoyment. _________________ Would love to have time to finish but I have kids:
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DaveVan
Joined: 27 Jan 2018 Posts: 1573
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:29 am Post subject: |
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A better chassis for a Laguna is a AMT 90's era Thunderbird chassis. It takes 2 chassis to get the needed WB. |
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mprmprmpr
Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Posts: 294 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:37 am Post subject: |
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As Dave said, a lot of guys use the AMT chassis. I know it's not correct but I used the kit chassis on my Earnhardt build. I just adjusted the ride height and used Revelogram wheels and tires. I'm okay with it, looks good enough for a shelfer... LOL.
Here's a link to my build..
http://www.randyayersmodeling.com/modelingforum/viewtopic.php?t=275&highlight=army
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HurricaneDave3
Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Posts: 304 Location: Allentown, PA
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Ok, so what is the deal with the 2 chassis? Dave or Mark? Do you have to join them or something? I really apologize for my questions but I've never built one before. Doesn't the kit chassis work well with the body? _________________ Would love to have time to finish but I have kids:
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mprmprmpr
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:12 am Post subject: |
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HurricaneDave3 wrote: | Ok, so what is the deal with the 2 chassis? Dave or Mark? Do you have to join them or something? I really apologize for my questions but I've never built one before. Doesn't the kit chassis work well with the body? |
The wheelbase is too short on the AMT chassis. I haven't done one so I can't help you on how to do it.
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HurricaneDave3
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:13 am Post subject: |
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How did you do yours on the Army car Mark? _________________ Would love to have time to finish but I have kids:
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Andretti Carfax Impala
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mprmprmpr
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:45 am Post subject: |
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HurricaneDave3 wrote: | How did you do yours on the Army car Mark? |
To be honest I don't remember. For the rear I assume I put spaces between the leaf springs and the rear housing. I think the front may have not been modified. The Revelogram wheels and tires are a big improvement over the kit wheels and tires.
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octopusmotor
Joined: 19 Mar 2018 Posts: 111
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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It's also possible to get there with one AMT Thunderbird chassis by cutting the chassis and adding some shims. IIRC, on my #68 build I cut the frame forward of the floor pan and glued in some little chunks of scrap sheet plastic to add the needed length. Depending on how and where you extend it you may need to extend the front hoop and some parts of the cage, but it's not difficult to do with some styrene tube.
You can see my finished build here:
http://www.randyayersmodeling.com/modelingforum/viewtopic.php?t=959
I know some folks like to use two chassis but I don't like to sacrifice more than I have to.
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HurricaneDave3
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:04 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for posting Jodie, do you remember where that tutorial was by chance? I'm not looking for a competition build just want the model as close as I can in my limited time frame to build. Thank you again for answering my questions. Any other info/advice is always appreciated. _________________ Would love to have time to finish but I have kids:
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octopusmotor
Joined: 19 Mar 2018 Posts: 111
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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I wish I could give you the link to the tutorial - unfortunately, it was lost when the old board database went kaput. The version captured on archive.org is missing the photos. It was done by a user with the handle Rocketman.
If anyone's able to capture that tutorial and get the pictures, and then repost it here, that would be great. Rocketman's build log was a huge help when I built my Laguna.
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George Andrews
Joined: 30 Jan 2018 Posts: 459
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:57 am Post subject: |
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HurricaneDave3 wrote: | Oh ok Mark, I thought they looked very similar. Again, this is out of my knowledge/experience zone. Anything special I need to do to the kit for the '79 version? Is the kit chassis ok to use? Not planning on going all out on this one, just mainly want the correct body style, this is a shelfer for my own enjoyment. |
The Chevrolet Laguna S-3 was a sister to the 2 - door Chevelle; both used the same basic body from 1973 to 1977 though the Laguna was actually a separately listed " model " within Chevrolet. ( Oldsmobile and Buick also used this same basic body & chassis on some of their models, including the 1977 Oldsmobile 4-4-2. ) Some model year differences below :
1973 - Large rear side " sailpanel " window openings, front - only impact bumper, 4 round taillights above solid rear bumper, trunklid drops down between taillights.
1974 - Smaller sailpanel window openings WITHOUT ribbed insert, 2 semi- elliptical taillights above new rear impact bumper, Laguna S-3 1-piece rubber nose with stand - up recessed grille.
1975 & '76 - Thin rectangular taillights above rear bumper & below new straight edged trunk lid, Laguna S-3 rubber slope - nose, sail panel window opening now has ribbed insert.
1976 & '77 Chevelle & Malibu now have 4 stacked square headlights with taller stand-up front grille. No ribbed insert in smaller sailpanel windows.
You mentioned " ... the '79 version "; this would be the 1977 Chevelle / Malibu with 4 stacked square headlights & stand - up front grille, and small sailpanel window openings without the Laguna ribbed inserts. DiGard Racing did run this body style on short tracks in 1978 & '79.
One nice feature of the 1973 - '77 Chevelle was the ease in Model Year body changes. When NASCAR banned the Laguna S-3 slope-nose beginning in 1978, some teams simply changed out the nose for the 1977 Chevelle version and used this style on short tracks, while switching to the similarly styled Olds 4-4-2 for Superspeedways. Others here can comment on which model manufacturer did which version when... |
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HurricaneDave3
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Wow!! Thank you George for the info, it is greatly appreciated. _________________ Would love to have time to finish but I have kids:
Dillon Jack Daniels Camaro
Moroso Olds (done, FINALLY!!!)
Richmond purple Uno Buick (done)
Andretti Carfax Impala
LePage Patron Charger
Green Timberwolf Monte
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