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  Topic: Wendell Scott #34 1962 Impala
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 6:55 pm   Subject: Wendell Scott #34 1962 Impala
Nice job on the replica Wendell Scott Impala (Actually, your model is *nicer* than the 1:1 replica itself). Never could figure out why that car was built for movie duty since Wendell never raced a Che ...
  Topic: Fairlane 1970
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:59 am   Subject: Re: Fairlane 1970
Thanks Doc for the help. One more question is the exterior all blue or is it a two tone blue and gold. The color photo looks all blue but I can't see the hood and deck lid to tell the color.

Steve ...
  Topic: Fairlane 1970
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:50 am   Subject: Fairlane 1970
The interior shots that Tom M. posted show a very interesting oil tank in the back. Looks like an end table for somebody's couch but made in metal instead of wood. Thank you, Doc and Tom M., for gett ...
  Topic: Fairlane 1970
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:58 pm   Subject: Re: Fairlane 1970
Thanks to all who replied this is exactly what I needed. Thanks to Doc Craft especially. Doc or anyone else was that Pearson car you had all the interior pics solid blue all over. Thanks again fellow ...
  Topic: Fairlane 1970
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:19 pm   Subject: Fairlane 1970
Tom! Thanks for posting!

The red un-lettered car is Earl Brooks' #26 HM Torino just after it was up bodied from 1969 tin. Pretty sure I sent a photo of that car, as raced, too. Interestingly, tha ...
  Topic: Fairlane 1970
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:45 pm   Subject: Fairlane 1970
Does anyone know the history of the Wendell Scott car. I know it was not the car Petty was preparing before switching back to Plymouth. Heard it was a borrowed car for a race or two while his was bein ...
  Topic: Fairlane 1970
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:39 pm   Subject: Fairlane 1970
Just sent a bunch of "Fairlane" photos to member David Long (and to Tom Mooty). Hope they will get posted here for all to see. Let me know if you have any questions about what you all see.
  Topic: Fairlane 1970
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:18 pm   Subject: Fairlane 1970
Yes, Those are some of the shots I sent to Tom. I also have one of a Hylton car, a Ballard car, and of an Earl Brooks car. I will share if someone PMs their e mail address. I also have more detail sho ...
  Topic: Fairlane 1970
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:44 am   Subject: Fairlane 1970
Mark, Your picture is a shot of Pearson's "Torino Cobra" or Fast Back Torino. Unless I am mistaken, the original question is about "Formal Roofed" Fairlane 500 bodied Torinos (Fo ...
  Topic: I heard that Bill Little, "Ancient Modeler" passed
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:29 am   Subject: I heard that Bill Little, "Ancient Modeler" passed
Tom, That is sad news, if true. I called Bill the other month and we spoke for about a half hour. We had a nice chat. But Bill sounded dispirited. Just tired and flat worn out. Made me sad.
  Topic: 66 Charger fire extinguishers system
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 5:12 pm   Subject: Re: 66 Charger fire extinguishers system
Was the 66 Dodge Charger inboard fire extinguisher system be the tall container behind driver as I have seen in other brand photos?

Did you find the photos posted helpful?
  Topic: 66 Charger fire extinguishers system
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:37 am   Subject: 66 Charger fire extinguishers system
Do not believe that Mopar cars used the same Ansul "Purple K" system employed by Holman Moody cars. The shots I have seen show only a small, hand held "hardware store" style manual ...
  Topic: sixties bolstered seat
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:20 pm   Subject: sixties bolstered seat
The Bostrom company, located in Jacksonville, FL was the maker of industrial seats. Some of these seats found their way into automotive use. For example, Bostrom West Coaster "stadium backed&qu ...
  Topic: Does anyone have a picture of this car from the bottom side
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:56 pm   Subject: Does anyone have a picture of this car from the bottom side
The under car photo above is one taken of Fred Lorenzen's 63 Wood Brothers car at Riverside in the 63 Motor Trend 500...Not the Amick 62 rolled at Daytona. But...that said...there is probably little d ...
  Topic: Gurney Stroppe Mercury Riverside 1967
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:02 pm   Subject: Gurney Stroppe Mercury Riverside 1967
https://i.imgur.com/lcr4NvD.jpg[/quote

That is a shot of the replica shock tower car (that was mendaciously passed off as the real deal) that was built a few years back from one real BME fender. N ...
  Topic: Gurney Stroppe Mercury Riverside 1967
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:30 pm   Subject: Gurney Stroppe Mercury Riverside 1967
Tom- do you have any suggestions about the best choice for an interior tub and roll cage? I have seen photos of the cars under construction and I'm not sure where to find an accurate version either i ...
  Topic: Gurney Stroppe Mercury Riverside 1967
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:23 pm   Subject: Gurney Stroppe Mercury Riverside 1967
Still a shock tower car
Don't think so. As Tom stated above, Curtis Turner was in the shock tower (the first 66 Bud built) car at RIR ). Pops ripped the front corner off of that car during the race. ...
  Topic: Photos of the "Evernham Collection"
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:42 pm   Subject: Photos of the "Evernham Collection"
THANKS for posting! If you compare the shots posted with the under hood shots of the Pearson auction car you will note many differences. The valve covers, the use of s single four barrel carb, the la ...
  Topic: Photos of the "Evernham Collection"
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:17 pm   Subject: Photos of the "Evernham Collection"
Pierre has offered to post some under hood shots of H&M Torinos and Cyclones. THANKS Pierre!
  Topic: Photos of the "Evernham Collection"
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:02 pm   Subject: Photos of the "Evernham Collection"
Some glorious cars there.

Great pics, too. Appreciate the close ups of Pearson's '68 Torino. Real craftsmanship in every inch of that car.

The #17 is a beauty....BUT...there are many things tha ...
  Topic: 1968 Torino/Cyclone
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:22 pm   Subject: 1968 Torino/Cyclone
The tail panel, tail lights ,the fender extensions and the fender openings are very different, too. And the front fenders are longer on the Mercury than on the Torino. Lots of work.
  Topic: Photos of the "Evernham Collection"
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:16 am   Subject: Photos of the "Evernham Collection"
Some glorious cars there.

Great pics, too. Appreciate the close ups of Pearson's '68 Torino. Real craftsmanship in every inch of that car.

The #17 is a beauty....BUT...there are many things tha ...
  Topic: Photos of the "Evernham Collection"
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:16 pm   Subject: Photos of the "Evernham Collection"
Follow this link to lots of good detail pictures of the "darkside cars" in Evernham's collection. (I am more than a little P.O.ed at the only passing reference to Greg K. and his nearly 30 y ...
  Topic: Wood Brothers / Lorenzon info needed
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:03 pm   Subject: Wood Brothers / Lorenzon info needed
Thanks for the reply, but I seen a picture where he was standing next to a Purolator car from the late 60's. By the C pillars it looked like a Mercury. I didn't know he drove for them or where during ...
  Topic: Restoration of Bobby Allison's 1968 HM/Bondy Long Torino
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:55 pm   Subject: Restoration of Bobby Allison's 1968 HM/Bondy Long Torino
[quote="odcics2"]John -

What are your engine specs?

thanks.[/quote

I built the 427 Tunnel Port in the car to 1968 specs and did not use any modern upgrades (like roller rockers or ...
  Topic: Restoration of Bobby Allison's 1968 HM/Bondy Long Torino
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:07 pm   Subject: Restoration of Bobby Allison's 1968 HM/Bondy Long Torino
Another amazing restoration! What is crazy is that Holman-Moody letter wherein they sold the new car to Bowani for just $1.00, offered to return the sales tax to them (on a buck), and would buy it bac ...
  Topic: Restoration of Bobby Allison's 1968 HM/Bondy Long Torino
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:59 am   Subject: Restoration of Bobby Allison's 1968 HM/Bondy Long Torino
Another amazing restoration! What is crazy is that Holman-Moody letter wherein they sold the new car to Bowani for just $1.00, offered to return the sales tax to them (on a buck), and would buy it bac ...
  Topic: Restoration of Bobby Allison's 1968 HM/Bondy Long Torino
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:37 pm   Subject: Restoration of Bobby Allison's 1968 HM/Bondy Long Torino
There is a brief bit of video of the car running at 8:17 at this link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUBmpr7R9as

And in these two clips:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/npTA4lG6oWM
https:// ...
  Topic: #88 (DC-93) Chrysler Engineering AMELIA Is. Photos, video
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:22 pm   Subject: #88 (DC-93) Chrysler Engineering AMELIA Is. Photos, video
More video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9cz-CCnQI8 (stock cars @ 11:38 )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94UkRgK8LMo (DC 93 @ 00:55 )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EesCiXQuzIs (stock car ...
  Topic: Restoration of Bobby Allison's 1968 HM/Bondy Long Torino
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:09 am   Subject: Restoration of Bobby Allison's 1968 HM/Bondy Long Torino
Here's a link to a thread at the Ford FE site focusing on the recently completed restoration of HM8-033S. Lots of detail photos. Hope it is of interest here.

https://www.fordfe.com/restoration-of-b ...
  Topic: Lorenzen 64 Ford
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:05 pm   Subject: Lorenzen 64 Ford
Dr Craft
what would the tank behind the seat be? oil for the rear end? and what is that funnel shaped object on the rear fire wall?

Thanks. Joe


If I may answer for the good Doctor, the tank ...
  Topic: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:12 am   Subject: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
Most of the H-M cars from that era appeared to have black roll cages. What color were the interior panels, bottom chassis and did they paint the engines or leave them natural. Thanks

It varied ...
  Topic: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:17 pm   Subject: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
Thanks Dr Craft for the new photos!
Bill

Any time Billy. Since 86ing Fascist Book, I find there aren't too many places to scratch my old stock car itch (outside of my own shop). But that is the p ...
  Topic: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:11 am   Subject: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
Did I hear something happened to the beautiful #6 64 Galaxie you finished awhile back?
Hurricane Harvey happened to it. Luckily I had a LOT of stated value insurance.

Wow. Thanks for the update. ...
  Topic: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:52 am   Subject: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
Did I hear something happened to the beautiful #6 64 Galaxie you finished awhile back?
Hurricane Harvey happened to it. Luckily I had a LOT of stated value insurance.
  Topic: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:52 pm   Subject: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
OK, I will ask again. I can't see the photo's, a blue square with a question mark is all that shows. Any help?
Send your e mail in a PM and I will forward the photos sent to afx Can't help on the co ...
  Topic: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:57 pm   Subject: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
This is the PL chassis under my MPC Mercury Cyclone build. Can anyone confirm this suspension setup would be appropriate for the Fairlane?


Pretty accurate actually. Two things though: 66-71 H&am ...
  Topic: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:33 pm   Subject: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
C5HM....

I know you are an H&M expert and collector. I read on another board that ARCA driver Brad Smith claims to have an old H&M chassis. He is trying to locate stampings etc. to authen ...
  Topic: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:33 am   Subject: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
What incredible reference photos, thanks alot, both of y'all.
On your restoration, who's car are you doing?

I am restoring HM8-033S to its configuration at the 1968 Daytona 500 where Bobby Allison ...
  Topic: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:31 am   Subject: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
This is the PL chassis under my MPC Mercury Cyclone build. Can anyone confirm this suspension setup would be appropriate for the Fairlane?

https://images40.fotki.com/v697/photos/4/1755924/9521488/ ...
  Topic: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:30 am   Subject: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
What are the two "devices" next to the fire extinguisher and are they on all HM cars of that era.

The blue rectangular box with the handle and the hose running out of it is part of the An ...
  Topic: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:49 am   Subject: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
Just sent a group of Fairlane photos to AFX via e mail. Perhaps he will be able to post there here for all to see?
  Topic: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:57 pm   Subject: Re: 1966-67 Fairlane questions
Reading the Fairlane and half chassis threads motivated me to build Andretti's Daytona winner.
What do I need to do to back date the Polar Lights frame and get it to fit the AMT 1966 Fairlane.
In th ...
  Topic: 1963 Rules Questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:58 pm   Subject: 1963 Rules Questions
There was no hard and fast rule and things varied. But generally textured aluminum panels had replace factory door panels by 1963.
  Topic: 1963 Rules Questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:43 pm   Subject: Re: 1963 Rules Questions
I am looking at a few 1963 cars. Am wondering about some rules.

1. Were exhaust headers allowed or just factory manifolds?
2. Street tires or race tires?
Fomoco teams used factory "long bran ...
  Topic: 1963 Rules Questions
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:39 pm   Subject: Re: 1963 Rules Questions
I am looking at a few 1963 cars. Am wondering about some rules.

1. Were exhaust headers allowed or just factory manifolds?
2. Street tires or race tires?

"Factory based" exhaust syste ...
  Topic: Lorenzen 64 Ford
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:00 pm   Subject: Lorenzen 64 Ford
Thanks Dr Craft! Miss your posts on FB but understand your position
Bill

Thanks Bill! Having lived long, I will not truck with purple haired, little 23 year old, fascists in California presuming ...
  Topic: Lorenzen 64 Ford
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:59 pm   Subject: Lorenzen 64 Ford
Thanks Dr Craft! Miss your posts on FB but understand your position
Bill

Thanks Bill! Having lived long, I will not truck with purple haired, little 23 year old, fascists in California presuming ...
  Topic: Lorenzen 64 Ford
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:46 pm   Subject: Lorenzen 64 Ford
The top three shots and the bottom two shots are of Lorenzen's 65 Galaxie. Fred used the same Champagne colored seats in that car as he did in his 64 (Middle two shots are of the 64 at Riverside). The ...
  Topic: Lorenzen 64 Ford
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PostForum: Darkside Racers Corner 1948 - 1972   Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:06 pm   Subject: Lorenzen 64 Ford
Might be a few days before Tom can post. He is in the midst of moving back to South Carolina from NH.
Bill

Heard that Tom was moving back to God's Country from the barren north.

I can forward ...
 
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